Tuesday, 23rd September 1997
THE CHAIRMAN: Mr. Knifton, before you make your
application, the Tribunal has been considering the
application of Mr. John Allen, that there should be a
recommendation that his costs should be met out of
public funds. The matter was heard before when we
were dissatisfied with the evidence before us. Since
then we have received an affidavit from Mr. Allen,
dealing with all his alleged assets and we have
reached the conclusion that he has no funds to support
legal representation. We propose to recommend,
therefore, that the costs of his representation should
be met out of public funds.
Who's Jones I wonder?
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes. That's exactly where I certainly
< 9> part company from you because if the evidence that he
<10> is seriously mentally affected and has lied in the
<11> past, then I don't think he is the calibre of witness
<12> that this Tribunal should be hearing with a view to
<13> reaching any positive conclusions about it.
<14> MR. HUGHES: Sir, may I read out the explanation he
<15> gave to the police for lying?
<16> THE CHAIRMAN: Yes.
<17> MR. HUGHES: What he said was this. In answer to the
<18> question, "Why have you done that?" "I wanted someone
<19> to pay." Jones went on to say (Jones was the name he
<20> was then using) that he'd had been abused at other
<21> establishments and by other persons. He made the
<22> false Criminal Injuries Compensation Board claim
<23> against John Allen in a misguided attempt to get
<24> compensation from someone. He told the officer that
<25> he had made a false complaint against John Allen a
next day follow on
< 1> Bryn Alyn because he knew ex-residents of Bryn Alyn
< 2> who had been abused by John Allen or, so they told
< 3> him. From speaking to them he had gained sufficient
< 4> knowledge to make a convincing account of abuse at
< 5> Bryn Alyn. He was not prepared to name the ex-
< 6> resident he had spoken to. Jones said he was not sure
< 7> about his motives at the time.
Evidence from Staff member about Peter Howarth who died in jail.
MR PETER HOWARTH
NAME: GRAHAM BRINLEY REES
AGE / DATE OF BIRTH: 52
13. I thought that Peter Howarth was a very down to
earth character, he had very strong views and believed
in 'calling a spade a spade'. I considered him to be
very astute when dealing with the boys and of tenant a
time of crisis he could get a boy to 'open up'.
14. l am aware that Peter Howarth operated a 'flat
list'. l understood that the list carried certain
risks but I could also see there were benefits. The
flat list provided them with an opportunity to leave
behind the routines of the school. There was always a
certain amount of showing off, bragging and innuendo
amongst the boys who were the list, as is normal in
such circumstances. Some of this was sexual but I
considered it to be within acceptable parameter and
was not a cause for concern. Many of the staff were
aware of the potential risks of the flat list but they
also appreciated the benefits it had on the boys
development. I was not aware of anything untoward
going on in Peter Howarth's flat. Peter Howarth was a
very keen golfer and he took the time to teach my son
how to play. My son tells me he thoroughly enjoyed the
MR. LEVER: Sir, I wonder if I can assist? I have read
those pages and I can certainly say in relation to the
terms of reference of this Tribunal they add nothing
so far as the Bryn Alyn homes are concerned. It is by
way of effectively an autobiography throughout his
whole time in care and deals with many aspects the
Tribunal is not concerned with.
Sir, I simply register one concern, which in
fact, you sir, have I believe, understood, that there
are no direct allegations made against the Bryn Alyn
home or the owner by Christopher Johns.
THE CHAIRMAN: On the contrary, the inference is that
he was so pleased with it that he arranged for his two
brothers to be there and he himself was employed there
for a short time.
MR. LEVER: Sir, that is right. If there is to be
evidence given, and he is keen to give evidence, the
inference my learned friend is drawing simply may be
this inference that in some way he holds someone
responsible for the death of his brother Adrian in a
fire in Brighton and also the death by suicide of
another brother, Leander Johns.